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person C.B.
schedule March 16, 2004 at 12:00 AM
Holy fuckin' shit, dude! He had a Fatty Arbuckle-like champagne incident, without all the death shi shit. I'd hate his ass too!:) I like the fic, though, so keep it up. He better grovel like a little bitch, though.:)
person Isabella
schedule March 16, 2004 at 12:00 AM
It's about time something went wrong with creative sex. In stories, nothing ever goeong.ong. Anyway, interesting chapter. More please.
person Andrea
schedule March 16, 2004 at 12:00 AM
if a guy did that to ME "i could never love you, you're beneath me " wouldn't even begin to cover it, and im just talkink about what he said. i hope Buffy gives him the hadest time, no pun intended, cause he really is a stupid jerk. (i'm a spuffier BTW but this guy's an ass) anyways i ike this story a lot, hope to see more of it soon. and my god! where the hell did you get that botle idea?
person Summer
schedule March 16, 2004 at 12:00 AM
Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I love this story. The last chapter made me remember something that happened to my best friend and his girlfriend that was along the same lines. Let's just say that they never tried to experiment with those wide candle pillars again. He so so embarrassed because they had to call ems and the EMS guy gave them a lecture about the fact that since they were college students they should of known that the wax on the candle would not lubercate that well. He still hates it when I tease him about candles and foreplay.

On another note, I hope that you continue to write and finish this story. I love this one and all of your other stories. Each and every day I hit AFF hoping to see one of your stories.
person Kat
schedule March 16, 2004 at 12:00 AM
Well, that chapter was interesting- certainly NOT funny, whoever said that... Spike definitely has some issues, I think. I don't think he's a rapist/mysoginist or anything like that, but getting upset like that when she didn't immediately say "I love you" back is a little disturbing. The bottle thing was an honest mistake, but I'd say those two seriously need a safety word or something the next time they get all kinky. Also- I don't blame Buffy for bepisspissed. Her friends were pretty harsh to take his side so totally. After all, lots of abusive people say i love you and i'm sorry afterwards, too. (and no- I don't think Spike was being abusive in the story, but Buffy's friends certainly don't know him well enough to know that for sure). The way I read it things got a little out of hand but no harm was actually intended. The name calling was a bit harsh (I wouldn't get off on that myself) but some people do. If it had really bothered Buffy I think she would have made it clear. Anyways, I really liked the chapter. Can't wait to see what happens when they talk. Want to hear Spike's side of the story.
person sluggie
schedule March 16, 2004 at 12:00 AM
abk: That's a good idea. We've already reached the record here for the longeevieeviews ever, I think. ;-) If anyone wants to further this discussion, you can do so at my LJ: http://www.livejournal.com/users/sluggie_/

Well, at least I can say this. Whether you liked it or not, none of you will ever look at a champagne or wine bottle the same again. 0:-)

Now...where did I put that cheese grater for my next chapter......





KIDDING!

person Syl
schedule March 16, 2004 at 12:00 AM
I usually enjoy your work, but I find the implication that Buffy was cruel or even insensitive by not returning Spike's expren ofn of love to be disturbing. People aren't required to make false declarations of love, and *any* declaration of love so early in a relationship is just insane. And Cordy and Willow upbraiding Buffy for it seems highly out of character.
person sluggie
schedule March 16, 2004 at 12:00 AM
A/N: Well either I suck as an author and didn't convey what I wanted to convey or some people are taking this way too personally. Read my Live Journal. I just had to point out that while you're entitled to your opinion, it's just that, your opinion. Spike is neither a mysoganist nor a rapist in this story and I should know, I'm the author and I did not write this chapterh thh that in mind at all. I didn't intend for it to be funny either. It appears I have garnered both reactions however. I feel like an Independent stuck between a Democrat and a Rebublican. Eek! I guess it just goes to show you how two different people can come away with polar opposite views of the same thing. Kinda like a Catholic Priest and a Protestant Reverand's interpretation of the Bible for lack of a better comparison. :-)

For as much as I may have potentially offended anyone, I'm sorry but I need to get this off my chest as I have had it happen a lot seeing as I write about tough subjects and issues in my fiction, As a victim of domestic violence and sexual assault myself, I get offended myself when people try to "lecture" me about it. I've got the t-shirt. I'll skip the lecture and if you can't understand where I'm coming from, I'm sorry again. There is no rule book for victims and how they behave or feel after such things occur. Yeah, there are reported general behaviors, that vary between individuals, mind you but every woman (or man for that matter) deals with it in their own way. It's not fair to lump everyone in the same category and say, well because *I* feel this way about this thing that happened to me, *you* should feel the same about what happened to you. It doesn't work that way. That being said, this chapter wasn't about rape anyway so none of what I just said applies. If you think it was then you've read something into it that I didn't intend to be there. Again, my suckiness as an author.

I like to write about stuff that happens in the real world or has happened to me or people I know. I like addressing tough issues and I take flack for that but I't 't write complete and total fluff because I don't think I'm capable of it. It's just not me. Please keep in mind that the context of a situation and the mitagating factors or circumstances surrounding certain events can play a big part in the overall view of a situation. Don't just grab a line or two and not take into consideration the rest because that's taking it out of context.

person sluggie
schedule March 16, 2004 at 12:00 AM
OK..for the hundrtimetime. I did not imply or otherwise shat hat Buffy was cruel or insensitive or anything else BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T TELL SPIKE SHE LOVED HIM. I implied she was harsh and cruel because of her telling him he was beneath her and would never love him (which she was lying) at the end. Why the hell are two separate scenes being spliced together like that?
I've written, what I think is much worse than this in my other stories and haven't gotten half the hoopla over it. I keep getting the same complaint that isn't what I wrote either. I don't know what is happening. I've read the chapter at this site and it appears to be the same thing in my word doc. so...shakes head...I don't know why those two scenes are being meshed and then reviewed negatively because that is not what I wrote.

If you don't like it, don't read it anymore. I don't know what else to tell you.






person sluggie
schedule March 16, 2004 at 12:00 AM
Oopps..forgot..if a declaration of love so early on in a relationship is insane, then what does that make all the gratuitous sex? I don't know you well enough to love you but I do enough to fuck your brains out and partake in some pretty intimate S&M games which requires quite a level of trust.

Falling in love with someone had no set time frame. Besides, this was just their first date but they've known each other for months in the story as I pointed out in I think the first or second chapter.